PSD files are unreasonable big

[wazz3r]

Hello.

I have a problem converting .eps files to .psd files, and that is the the resulting image is way to big.

For example: test.eps is 2,60 MB. After running running convert test.eps test.psd i will have a test.psd that is 163 MB!

Then i open the image in Gimp and just saves it again, witch will result in a test.psd that is 1,97 MB

What can cause IM to produces such a big file out of nothing?

[fmw42]

try using the density to set the resolution of the eps.

convert -density 72 test.eps test.psd

[wazz3r]

Same result.

As mentioned, the fun thing is that after you open the file with any other editor and resave it, its shrinks back to the right size...

I did some more testing with the resulting file. convert test.psd test.jpeg made IM crash with:

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Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
 Application Name:	convert.exe
 Application Version:	5.0.0.0
 Application Timestamp:	4f2ed098
 Fault Module Name:	IM_MOD_RL_PSD_.dll
 Fault Module Version:	0.0.0.0
 Fault Module Timestamp:	4f2ece03
 Exception Code:	c0000005
 Exception Offset:	0000000000001f35
 OS Version:	6.0.6002.2.2.0.16.7
 Locale ID:	1053
 Additional Information 1:	9e6e
 Additional Information 2:	1f6d903c6a7939218485ac6c7f2915a7
 Additional Information 3:	10e8
 Additional Information 4:	cec5dc4d527f36621178a73ccfa41f9d

If I remember correctly c0000005 is access violation, aka buffer overflow.

Maybe I should post this in the bug forum instead?

[fmw42]

Perhaps you should post your input image so others can test.

Note PS can use background transparency to save space and your eps may be using something like that. But IM probably converts that to alpha transparency, so you get an extra channel the same size as your image, which will cause the image to be bigger.

[wazz3r]

Here it is:
http://watski.com/dl/test.eps

2 MB -> 168 MB just for a new channel?

[fmw42]

Your eps file is bigger than you think in its geometry. So when converted it has a lot of white area.


Image: 1test.eps
Format: PS (PostScript)
Class: DirectClass
Geometry: 10200x13200+0+0
Base geometry: 5068x4222
Resolution: 1200x1200
Print size: 8.5x11
Units: Undefined
Type: Bilevel

Try trimming the white area with -trim

convert -density 72 test.eps -alpha off -trim +repage -depth 8 -type bilevel test.psd

This makes a file that is 19.8 Mbytes.

If you want a border of white around it, then you can add one by

convert -density 72 test.eps -alpha off -trim +repage -bordercolor white -border 10 -depth 8 -type bilevel test.psd

[wazz3r]

That's not what i get

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identify -verbose test.eps

Image: test.eps
  Format: PS (PostScript)
  Class: DirectClass
  Geometry: 5068x4222+0+0
  Resolution: 1200x1200
  Print size: 4.22333x3.51833
  Units: Undefined
  Type: Bilevel
  Base type: Bilevel
  Endianess: Undefined
  Colorspace: RGB
  Depth: 16/1-bit
  Channel depth:
    gray: 1-bit
    alpha: 1-bit
  Channel statistics:
    Gray:
      min: 0 (0)
      max: 65535 (1)
      mean: 60804.4 (0.927816)
      standard deviation: 16960 (0.258793)
      kurtosis: 8.93122
      skewness: -3.30624
    Alpha:
      min: 0 (0)
      max: 65535 (1)
      mean: 4730.6 (0.0721843)
      standard deviation: 16960 (0.258793)
      kurtosis: 8.93122
      skewness: -3.30624
  Alpha: rgba(255,255,255,0)   #FFFFFFFFFFFF0000
  Colors: 2
  Histogram:
   1544535: (    0,    0,    0,65535) #000000000000 black
  19852561: (65535,65535,65535,    0) #FFFFFFFFFFFF0000 rgba(255,255,255,0)
  Rendering intent: Undefined
  Interlace: None
  Background color: white
  Border color: rgba(223,223,223,1)
  Matte color: grey74
  Transparent color: none
  Compose: Over
  Page geometry: 5068x4222+0+0
  Dispose: Undefined
  Iterations: 0
  Compression: Undefined
  Orientation: Undefined
  Properties:
    date:create: 2012-02-25T17:30:00+01:00
    date:modify: 2012-02-25T17:30:02+01:00
    ps:HiResBoundingBox: 304.08x253.32+0+0
    ps:Level: Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
    signature: 525f63e401b3b537381c6f4b15b9c955bb263501837656fd1271bb7ccc0fa04b
    xapMM:DocumentID: adobe:docid:photoshop:445aa779-a427-11d8-923a-e155762b55cd

  Profiles:
    Profile-8bim: 22958 bytes
    Profile-exif: 294 bytes
    Profile-xmp: 4648 bytes
  Artifacts:
    verbose: true
  Tainted: False
  Filesize: 139KB
  Number pixels: 21.4M
  Pixels per second: 13.46MB
  User time: 1.531u
  Elapsed time: 0:02.590
  Version: ImageMagick 6.7.5-2 2012-02-05 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org

IM 6.7.5 Q16
GS 9.04

EDIT: Also, running identify -verbose test.psd crashes identify.exe...

[fmw42]

IM am now running IM 6.7.5.7 Q16 Mac OSX Snow Leopard. Using identify -verbose on your downloaded image, I still get

Image: test.eps
Format: PS (PostScript)
Class: DirectClass
Geometry: 10200x13200+0+0
Base geometry: 5068x4222
Resolution: 1200x1200
Print size: 8.5x11
Units: Undefined
Type: Bilevel
Base type: Bilevel


So perhaps your image got changed upon upload. Try downloading it and testing it.

Then if I convert it without the trim, I see the image in the bottom area with a lot of white area above it. So with the trim:

convert -density 72 test.eps -alpha off -trim +repage -depth 8 -type bilevel test.psd

test.psd opens fine in my PS CS and displays fine in IM

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identify -verbose test.psd
Image: test.psd
  Format: PSD (Adobe Photoshop bitmap)
  Class: PseudoClass
  Geometry: 4862x4063+0+0
  Resolution: 72x72
  Print size: 67.5278x56.4306
  Units: Undefined
  Type: Bilevel
  Base type: Bilevel
  Endianess: Undefined
  Colorspace: Gray
  Depth: 8-bit
  Channel depth:
    gray: 1-bit
  Channel statistics:
    Gray:
      min: 0 (0)
      max: 255 (1)
      mean: 235.062 (0.921813)
      standard deviation: 68.4588 (0.268466)
      kurtosis: 7.87463
      skewness: -3.14239
  Colors: 2
  Histogram:
   1544535: (  0,  0,  0) #000000 black
  18209771: (255,255,255) #FFFFFF white
  Colormap: 256
         0: (  0,  0,  0) #000000 black
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  Interlace: None
  Background color: white
  Border color: gray(223,223,223)
  Matte color: grey74
  Transparent color: black
  Compose: Over
  Page geometry: 4862x4063+0+0
  Dispose: Undefined
  Iterations: 0
  Compression: None
  Orientation: Undefined
  Properties:
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    date:modify: 2012-02-25T10:43:51-08:00
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    Profile-exif: 294 bytes
  Artifacts:
    verbose: true
  Tainted: False
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  Pixels per second: 22.2MB
  User time: 0.890u
  Elapsed time: 0:01.890
  Version: ImageMagick 6.7.5-7 2012-02-25 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org

No crash!